Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
We have been approached by a brokerage firm to upgrade their phone system to VoIP and presented Asterisk as a solution. Our competition is pushing Microsoft's system and states that Asterisk is forbidden in the industry especially following last year's FBI warning. Anybody have clarification on this? Hoping they are wrong.
Thanks!
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David Shauger
Vice President
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
Sounds like standard Microsoft FUD tactics to me.
As google seems to indicate, the warning is mostly due to idiots not being
able to configure a somewhat secure installation of Asterisk, something
that can also happens on Microsoft.
You could counter with the dozens of windows related warnings the FBI
issued, about their server security in general.
On Sun, 3 May 2009, David Shauger wrote:
Quote:
Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 12:36:07 -0400
From: David Shauger <sollostech@gmail.com>
Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
<asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
<asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
We have been approached by a brokerage firm to upgrade their phone system to
VoIP and presented Asterisk as a solution. Our competition is pushing
Microsoft's system and states that Asterisk is forbidden in the industry
especially following last year's FBI warning. Anybody have clarification on
this? Hoping they are wrong.
Thanks!
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David Shauger
Vice President
Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 4:51 pm Post subject: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
you should read about the companies that are not allowed to use Microsoft...
Asterisk is not safe using default install, as well as Microsoft OS'es
arnt.. would you push a fresh xp install to a directly connected modem ?
Same with asterisk.. iptables is your friend
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
>bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Stephane Bakhos
>Sent: May-03-09 12:48 PM
>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
>
>Sounds like standard Microsoft FUD tactics to me.
>As google seems to indicate, the warning is mostly due to idiots not
>being
>able to configure a somewhat secure installation of Asterisk, something
>that can also happens on Microsoft.
>
>You could counter with the dozens of windows related warnings the FBI
>issued, about their server security in general.
>
>
>On Sun, 3 May 2009, David Shauger wrote:
>
>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 12:36:07 -0400
>> From: David Shauger <sollostech@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
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>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
>>
>> We have been approached by a brokerage firm to upgrade their phone
>system to
>> VoIP and presented Asterisk as a solution. Our competition is pushing
>> Microsoft's system and states that Asterisk is forbidden in the
>industry
>> especially following last year's FBI warning. Anybody have
>clarification on
>> this? Hoping they are wrong.
>>
>> Thanks!
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 12:50 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
David,
There is no such industry-wide ban on Asterisk.
The FBI warning was issued in December 2008 about a vulnerability in Asterisk SIP authentication. The vulnerability was documented by Digium in Asterisk Security Advisory AST-2008-003, and had been resolved NINE months earlier, in March 2008. The original FBI IC3 warning has been revised substantially.
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:36 AM, David Shauger <sollostech@gmail.com (sollostech@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
We have been approached by a brokerage firm to upgrade their phone system to VoIP and presented Asterisk as a solution. Our competition is pushing Microsoft's system and states that Asterisk is forbidden in the industry especially following last year's FBI warning. Anybody have clarification on this? Hoping they are wrong.
Thanks!
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David Shauger
Vice President
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 1:45 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
Call their bluff and ask for documentation on who has done the "forbidding" and why.
I know that at least one major FX trading firm uses Asterisk globally.
Both Cisco and Nortel know something about VoIP systems.
Both started with theirs sitting on MS Windows.
Both have migrated their PBXs to *nix.
Wonder why?
'Nuff said,
regards,
Drew
David Shauger wrote:
Quote:
We have been approached by a brokerage firm to upgrade their phone system to VoIP and presented Asterisk as a solution. Our competition is pushing Microsoft's system and states that Asterisk is forbidden in the industry especially following last year's FBI warning. Anybody have clarification on this? Hoping they are wrong.
Thanks!
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David Shauger
Vice President
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
I wonder how a blue screen sounds like...
From:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Drew Gibson
Sent: May-03-09 10:43 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
Call their bluff and ask for documentation on who has done the "forbidding" and why.
I know that at least one major FX trading firm uses Asterisk globally.
Both Cisco and Nortel know something about VoIP systems.
Both started with theirs sitting on MS Windows.
Both have migrated their PBXs to *nix.
Wonder why?
'Nuff said,
regards,
Drew
David Shauger wrote:
We have been approached by a brokerage firm to upgrade their phone system to VoIP and presented Asterisk as a solution. Our competition is pushing Microsoft's system and states that Asterisk is forbidden in the industry especially following last year's FBI warning. Anybody have clarification on this? Hoping they are wrong.
Thanks!
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David Shauger
Vice President
Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:32 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
On May 3, 2009, at 6:36 PM, David Shauger wrote:
Quote:
We have been approached by a brokerage firm to upgrade their phone
system to VoIP and presented Asterisk as a solution. Our competition
is pushing Microsoft's system and states that Asterisk is forbidden
in the industry especially following last year's FBI warning.
Anybody have clarification on this? Hoping they are wrong.
Thanks!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Shauger
David -
Nonsense. Ask them for documentation. As far as I am aware, this is
pure myth. In fact, Digium has a partner whose primary business
involves installing Asterisk-based systems in brokerage houses.
JT
---
John Todd email:jtodd@digium.com
Digium, Inc. | Asterisk Open Source Community Director
445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville AL 35806 - USA
direct: +1-256-428-6083 http://www.digium.com/
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:56 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
I know a company that sells a non Asterisk, Hosted SIP solution. Their sales pitch is
"Do you really want open source?? So some terrorist can enter your system thru a backdoor and
take over your pbx??"
Sounds funny, but some people buy it.
Thats why I think it would be beneficial for all of us, if we could put together a list
of major asterisk based installations. Whenever a potential customer repeats some of the competitions scare tactics
just refer him to that list :-)
Moshe
John Todd wrote:
Quote:
Quote:
On May 3, 2009, at 6:36 PM, David Shauger wrote:
Quote:
We have been approached by a brokerage firm to upgrade their phone
system to VoIP and presented Asterisk as a solution. Our competition
is pushing Microsoft's system and states that Asterisk is forbidden
in the industry especially following last year's FBI warning.
Anybody have clarification on this? Hoping they are wrong.
Thanks!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Shauger
David -
Nonsense. Ask them for documentation. As far as I am aware, this is
pure myth. In fact, Digium has a partner whose primary business
involves installing Asterisk-based systems in brokerage houses.
JT
---
John Todd email:jtodd@digium.com ([email]email:jtodd@digium.com[/email])
Digium, Inc. | Asterisk Open Source Community Director
445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville AL 35806 - USA
direct: +1-256-428-6083 http://www.digium.com/
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:02 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
And lemme guess... Its ran on opensource? hah
From: Moshe Maeir <moshe@flatplanetphone.com>
Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 10:53:18 +0300
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
I know a company that sells a non Asterisk, Hosted SIP solution. Their sales pitch is
"Do you really want open source?? So some terrorist can enter your system thru a backdoor and
take over your pbx??"
Sounds funny, but some people buy it.
Thats why I think it would be beneficial for all of us, if we could put together a list
of major asterisk based installations. Whenever a potential customer repeats some of the competitions scare tactics
just refer him to that list :-)
Moshe
John Todd wrote:
Quote:
On May 3, 2009, at 6:36 PM, David Shauger wrote:
Quote:
We have been approached by a brokerage firm to upgrade their phone
system to VoIP and presented Asterisk as a solution. Our competition
is pushing Microsoft's system and states that Asterisk is forbidden
in the industry especially following last year's FBI warning.
Anybody have clarification on this? Hoping they are wrong.
Thanks!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Shauger
David -
Nonsense. Ask them for documentation. As far as I am aware, this is
pure myth. In fact, Digium has a partner whose primary business
involves installing Asterisk-based systems in brokerage houses.
JT
---
John Todd email:jtodd@digium.com
Digium, Inc. | Asterisk Open Source Community Director
445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville AL 35806 - USA
direct: +1-256-428-6083 http://www.digium.com/
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...and then perhaps sending me any additional participants who you
think might be good case studies, and I'll try to have them added.
There are, of course, tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of
commercial installations of Asterisk. Getting their names on a public
list is the tricky part. :-)
JT
On May 4, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Moshe Maeir wrote:
Quote:
I know a company that sells a non Asterisk, Hosted SIP solution.
Their sales pitch is
"Do you really want open source?? So some terrorist can enter your
system thru a backdoor and
take over your pbx??"
Sounds funny, but some people buy it.
Thats why I think it would be beneficial for all of us, if we could
put together a list
of major asterisk based installations. Whenever a potential customer
repeats some of the competitions scare tactics
just refer him to that list :-)
Moshe
John Todd wrote:
>
> On May 3, 2009, at 6:36 PM, David Shauger wrote:
>> We have been approached by a brokerage firm to upgrade their phone
>> system to VoIP and presented Asterisk as a solution. Our competition
>> is pushing Microsoft's system and states that Asterisk is forbidden
>> in the industry especially following last year's FBI warning.
>> Anybody have clarification on this? Hoping they are wrong.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> David Shauger
>
> David -
> Nonsense. Ask them for documentation. As far as I am aware, this is
> pure myth. In fact, Digium has a partner whose primary business
> involves installing Asterisk-based systems in brokerage houses.
>
> JT
---
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Digium, Inc. | Asterisk Open Source Community Director
445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville AL 35806 - USA
direct: +1-256-428-6083 http://www.digium.com/
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
John,
Would it be possible to talk to that partner so we have a solid reference to show our client?
Thanks!
On May 4, 2009, at 3:28 AM, John Todd wrote:
Quote:
On May 3, 2009, at 6:36 PM, David Shauger wrote:
Quote:
We have been approached by a brokerage firm to upgrade their phone
system to VoIP and presented Asterisk as a solution. Our competition
is pushing Microsoft's system and states that Asterisk is forbidden
in the industry especially following last year's FBI warning.
Anybody have clarification on this? Hoping they are wrong.
Thanks!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Shauger
David -
Nonsense. Ask them for documentation. As far as I am aware, this is
pure myth. In fact, Digium has a partner whose primary business
involves installing Asterisk-based systems in brokerage houses.
JT
---
John Todd email:jtodd@digium.com (jtodd@digium.com)
Digium, Inc. | Asterisk Open Source Community Director
445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville AL 35806 - USA
direct: +1-256-428-6083 http://www.digium.com/
_______________________________________________
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
Nice, Actually out of the last 40 numbers i called 30 that had the Allison
on hold messaging, from iweb.ca to big shipping companies, passing trough
DELL and some others.. ALL use asterisk,.. now the way they integrate /route
with it , is why im dropping DELL in the first place, i don't think that
keeping media in path from AZ to NY, TO INDIA back to Pakistan is the way to
do things.. But they still use it.. even non asterisk providers use it, pri
providers and more.. like i said 30 out of 40 last dialed...
Quote:
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
>bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of John Todd
>Sent: May-04-09 6:51 AM
>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Brokerage Firms and Asterisk?
>
>
>Moshe -
> I would perhaps suggest looking at this list as a start:
>
> http://www.digium.com/en/company/casestudies/
>
> ...and then perhaps sending me any additional participants who you
>think might be good case studies, and I'll try to have them added.
>There are, of course, tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of
>commercial installations of Asterisk. Getting their names on a public
>list is the tricky part. :-)
>
>JT
>
>
>
>On May 4, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Moshe Maeir wrote:
>
>> I know a company that sells a non Asterisk, Hosted SIP solution.
>> Their sales pitch is
>> "Do you really want open source?? So some terrorist can enter your
>> system thru a backdoor and
>> take over your pbx??"
>>
>> Sounds funny, but some people buy it.
>>
>> Thats why I think it would be beneficial for all of us, if we could
>> put together a list
>> of major asterisk based installations. Whenever a potential customer
>> repeats some of the competitions scare tactics
>> just refer him to that list :-)
>>
>> Moshe
>>
>> John Todd wrote:
>>>
>>> On May 3, 2009, at 6:36 PM, David Shauger wrote:
>>>> We have been approached by a brokerage firm to upgrade their phone
>>>> system to VoIP and presented Asterisk as a solution. Our
>competition
>>>> is pushing Microsoft's system and states that Asterisk is forbidden
>>>> in the industry especially following last year's FBI warning.
>>>> Anybody have clarification on this? Hoping they are wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>---------
>>>> David Shauger
>>>
>>> David -
>>> Nonsense. Ask them for documentation. As far as I am aware, this
>is
>>> pure myth. In fact, Digium has a partner whose primary business
>>> involves installing Asterisk-based systems in brokerage houses.
>>>
>>> JT
>
>---
>John Todd email:jtodd@digium.com
>Digium, Inc. | Asterisk Open Source Community Director
>445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville AL 35806 - USA
>direct: +1-256-428-6083 http://www.digium.com/
>
>
>
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